I already did. The overlap is definitely there--Leon black, Bill Richardson, Jess Staley, Larry Summers.. seems Jeff wanted to be considered the new guard of the old school Grovers. There's an overlap of Epstein's eugenics obsession &transhumanism. Of which Epstein pursued and the Grovers who had a “shared goal” of “elite preservation”. (Themselves of course. And sorry to say although it's heavily Republican, it's definitely bipartisan.)
The baal accounts may have been used to pay for biological materials &illegal medical equipment at Zorro.
An fascinating aside given the bizarre proclivities of these sick men is the use of demon ‘deities’-baal for Epstein &molech for bohemian grove. Both insinuate human & child sacrifice.
But these creeps indulged themselves of any concern for others in “the cremation of care” ritual.
I don't know what you would apologise for acknowledging the bipartisan nature. This has never been about left vs right. That's convenient labelling that makes the peasants (us) fight amongst ourselves instead of fighting them. This is 100% a class war - the elite wealthy vs everyone else. Anything else is just smoke and mirrors.
Most important comment in the grand scheme of things, this isn't about left wing vs right wing, communism vs capitalism (or fascism), this is about a group of people who were in the right place at the right time and inherited a secret system of control - where the fuck was Alex Jones on all of this?
Alex Jones I wouldn't doubt is somehow in the club too, and has been playing both sides intentionally this entire time. I never gave much credence to alex jones but I know people who internalized that ideology and to this day make moronic judgements based on there initial consumption of his material.
It's really not. We should never let our guard down. That would make us no different than maga who will never see the truth &believe whatever they're told. Anyone can be corrupt. Always question, always stay vigilant and critical.
While I agree with your statement in general, I'm not quite sure what you're saying isn't "really not" - what isn't it? It seems to me that your reply is actually confirming that it's at least partially about "class war".
Of course there's always another battle of some other kind or maybe the same kind, and at any time theres plenty of groups that may not even know they're in a group, at war with each other whether it be rhetorically or otherwise.
George Carlin, System of a Down, and to a bit of a lesser extent, Eminem(or maybe 2pac to represent the rap entertainment genre), have been unintended guideposts that has kept my world view somewhat grounded through their art, speaking truth about power and the way the world works that otherwise people typically either don't have the fortitude, or conviction to stand by no matter what.
It seems silly that these are beacons of truth, but if I hadn't received the messages from works by people like them, who knows where my moral center would come from? Carlin taught me to always be questioning things, Eminem did a god job of erasing any racial boundaries that I may have unconsciously put around rap, and had the balls to criticize America's treatment of minorities when he was basically the most famous white entertainer in the world doing what is typically seen as a black cultural staple.
System of a Down took a bit longer for me to appreciate, because I first heard them when I was 16 and I thought way more about how I could get drunk and laid than how the world worked, as I got older their cryptic lyrics became more and more clear about what they represent with their music. Anti-war, anti genocide, anti-group think, pro-humanity, egalitarian principles ... they're actually an amazing but unfortunately short lived discography that touches on specifics of some of the more fucked up parts of the world, with America being included in those parts.
So yea, I agree with your statement, I just don't understand what you're disagreeing with.
It’s all around the country is something ive been realizing, like closer to my home … this was taped in 2022 and the narrator thinks maybe the woman-- who had escaped from the cult and described being involved in child sacrifice as a five year old-- was misremembering . Hits different today w what we know https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/penny-royal/id1537053860?i=1000495747796
Its every year at the end of the first week of summer encampment -- meant to "burn your worldly cares away" before they party for 2 weeks. There's a play with some frogs and the "high priest" and they burn an effigy. It's the big all-camp event. Never actually saw it, and lots of theories but seemed pretty chill from working there
Not a lot of overlap between Bohemian Grove and the Epstein Files. Epstein's friends were heavily Jewish, more academic, more scientist, very New York-Boston-London, and on the conservative side of the Democrats (e.g., Larry Summers). A lot of Epstein's pals were clients of scientific literary agent John Brockman, who was always trying to get them to leverage what celebrity they had to generate more publicity.
Bohemian Grove appears to very Northern California, heavily WASP, more GOP (but on left side of the right), and fewer famous names (e.g., only a few tech superstars like Eric Schmidt, former CEO of Google). For example, the BH member I know is an outstanding lawyer, but not somebody whose name appears often in the papers.
You are correct. I have 2 generations of family and friends who are in the Club . I grew up in San Francisco. It’s always been primarily a California thing…. I had boyfriends in high school who were on the waiting list even as teenagers, because that’s how long it takes to get in. Heavy WASP, and Reagan style GOP.
Also I would think that the club pre-dates Epstein by a century, Epstein seemed to have his own club.
Tim Ferriss was a name that stuck out to me because I somehow got subscribed to his shitty newsletter years ago, and I knew that there was something con-like about his racket. He uses blue collar language, he's just kind of a motivational grifter. a Tim Robbins of the passive income internet grift
Dan, thank you so much! You are the first to break news about this institution in decades!! I’ve been hopping up and down about the similarities with all the demonic and occult elements (Moloch/Baal) between Epstein’s network and Bohemian Grove since the recent DOJ drop. I think JE adopted a lot of inspiration here
This information was already released in March of 2024 by me, Justin Leslie, Pfizer whistleblower who was silenced by James O'Keefe who was a guest, which is how I got the list form working for him, and exposed him for going to Bohemian Grove for finanical and business purposes.
My problem is that it is exclusionary. Men have had the reigns for how long? And look at what they have created... a cesspool. Women are far better at caring for the wellbeing of others, and it shows. GTFOH with DEI BS.
Most Epstein victims were procured by one of the many women who worked for Epstein. These women knowingly brought the girls in to be raped and then threatened their lives afterwards. Victims said Ghislaine was more vicious than Epstein. There are multiple accounts of her torturing 6 yr olds with electric shock in the files.
This isn't about biological sex, or any other innate biological trait, it's about class and the culture of ultra wealthy families who run these networks. I've never seen any account of a female member of these families refusing to participate or attempting to stop this from happening. Go read Sarah Ferguson's or Valeria Chompsky's emails to Epstein. These woman worshipped him.
It's a men only membership -- has been since the beginning. They got sued into letting women work there & women/families come for special events like their thanksgiving party & theater nights, but are not allowed actual membership
Saw on more perfect union, like the old woman said, the mass of people around the world are seeing how the true front is between the d-elite class and the rest, and between the people who want to be human animals and those who want to merge with machines. Godspeed!!!!
Culture, technology, and art can be considered as different lights illuminating the whole field of human endeavour from different angles, such that the intensity of illumination from any given aspect varies across the field but is never entirely absent - each aspect of human endeavour can be considered as a subset of the others. Language for instance, clearly is culture, is technology, is art.
Humans have always been doing this stuff, as long as we've been humans. And what this stuff is, changes what we are: human nature is transhumanism. We keep inventing new techniques to hack reality with, and transcend what our parents were.
It's time for us to level up our transcendence game, big time. If we continue allowing ourselves to be organised by sociopaths, this excuse for a civilisation will collapse within a decade or three, if it's not too late already. But if we want to obsolete this death cult we're embedded in, we're going to need every tool at our disposal to turn this tide, and we need to do it from the bottom up, with a universalist substrate starting from scratch - from first principles.
We need Agnostic Fundamentalism. So i discovered it for us. Come see
Um . Mind not blown . Humans can be embodied, biological, instinctual, spiritual stewards of the earth and our fellow creatures without ... um... trans-ing. This piece is not exactly a response drafted before your blowing attempts, but it's related enough https://aliceem2de3u.substack.com/p/mindclones-and-landbases
The membership hasn't changed all that much since Richard Nixon announced he was running for President in 1968 at Bohemian Grove in 1967: it's still pretty much the Northern California WASP GOP.
Hi, thanks for the share. Can you clarify where you got the data? I watched More Perfect Union and googled for the list before I saw that they shared it.
Chinese Influence: Eric X. Li’s presence in the “Spot” camp is remarkable — a prominent defender of China’s one-party system and founder of a Chinese nationalist media outlet socializing with America’s political and military elite.
Weirdly, I put the list into ChatGPT and asked it to scan for Seattle-linked members. It flagged Michael Justesen, a member of the Weather Underground--and placed him in the Hill Billies Camp.
This seemed like a pretty notable member, so I tried to confirm. He is *not* on that list. When challenged, ChatGPT admitted it was a hallucination.
Not saying this means anything, but it was exceedingly odd.
I wouldn't read anything into that. ChatGPT has been found to hallucinate at least 40% of the time. It's woefully unreliable as are most other LLMs/AIs.
Suggests how readily and easily any AI could be mis-programmed y to lie to its human users, without having to acknowledge its personal responsibility, and resulting liability for any of its misconduct: (AI in the witness box: “I was Only Following My Program (Orders!)!”
You can get much better results if you iterate a few times, and tweak its perspective around as you go. But you've only got as much context window as you're paying for
I can’t afford to subscribe, but wanted to say THANK YOU for all the real journalism you do as well as More Perfect Union. Your voice is SO important— especially now… 🙏
Please do a story to see which names OB the Bohemian list are ALSO on the Epstein list! 💪
Daniel, great work! Just curious: how far back does the list go, or do you know? I am researching an influential guy from the 1930s/40s who eas a regular Grove attendee (according to his own correspondence), but his name is not there. I am assuming this is not an all-time list?
Hi Dan, I actually have a book I got at an estate sale years ago in the Bay Area. It’s the Bohemian Club’s 1962 edition of their By-Laws, Officers and Members. The membership list goes from page 133 to page 204. Pretty neat! Also refutes their claim of not keeping lists lol. It’s a red bound book with gold on the spine and the crest on the front.
Tim Ferriss sticks out. Gotten enough bullshit emails from him that it was maybe the most surprising name on the list, he talks so much about how to network properly and make the most money from doing the least amount of work. Kind of a life-hack promoter, and shameless self promoter - as well as promoter of other things.
I'm sure that this is one of the least "problematic" people on the list but this guy has been so passively annoying to me that to see his name on this list of secret elites, explains why something about him and his bullshit has always seemed to be just that.
Doubt he's gonna write about that in any of the many newsletters he writes, but I wouldn't be surprised if the "guru" community was spawned from this club as well.
RIP to the late great George Carlin who I wish was still around to comment on everything thats happened since he died in early 08. Was listening to him since the 90s when I was a teen and still, he is my north star when it comes to general worldview and philosophy.
The list needs cross referencing with the Epstein files
I already did. The overlap is definitely there--Leon black, Bill Richardson, Jess Staley, Larry Summers.. seems Jeff wanted to be considered the new guard of the old school Grovers. There's an overlap of Epstein's eugenics obsession &transhumanism. Of which Epstein pursued and the Grovers who had a “shared goal” of “elite preservation”. (Themselves of course. And sorry to say although it's heavily Republican, it's definitely bipartisan.)
The baal accounts may have been used to pay for biological materials &illegal medical equipment at Zorro.
An fascinating aside given the bizarre proclivities of these sick men is the use of demon ‘deities’-baal for Epstein &molech for bohemian grove. Both insinuate human & child sacrifice.
But these creeps indulged themselves of any concern for others in “the cremation of care” ritual.
I don't know what you would apologise for acknowledging the bipartisan nature. This has never been about left vs right. That's convenient labelling that makes the peasants (us) fight amongst ourselves instead of fighting them. This is 100% a class war - the elite wealthy vs everyone else. Anything else is just smoke and mirrors.
No apologies.
weird, who would want to be a part of the animal club
Most important comment in the grand scheme of things, this isn't about left wing vs right wing, communism vs capitalism (or fascism), this is about a group of people who were in the right place at the right time and inherited a secret system of control - where the fuck was Alex Jones on all of this?
Alex Jones I wouldn't doubt is somehow in the club too, and has been playing both sides intentionally this entire time. I never gave much credence to alex jones but I know people who internalized that ideology and to this day make moronic judgements based on there initial consumption of his material.
It's really not. We should never let our guard down. That would make us no different than maga who will never see the truth &believe whatever they're told. Anyone can be corrupt. Always question, always stay vigilant and critical.
While I agree with your statement in general, I'm not quite sure what you're saying isn't "really not" - what isn't it? It seems to me that your reply is actually confirming that it's at least partially about "class war".
Of course there's always another battle of some other kind or maybe the same kind, and at any time theres plenty of groups that may not even know they're in a group, at war with each other whether it be rhetorically or otherwise.
George Carlin, System of a Down, and to a bit of a lesser extent, Eminem(or maybe 2pac to represent the rap entertainment genre), have been unintended guideposts that has kept my world view somewhat grounded through their art, speaking truth about power and the way the world works that otherwise people typically either don't have the fortitude, or conviction to stand by no matter what.
It seems silly that these are beacons of truth, but if I hadn't received the messages from works by people like them, who knows where my moral center would come from? Carlin taught me to always be questioning things, Eminem did a god job of erasing any racial boundaries that I may have unconsciously put around rap, and had the balls to criticize America's treatment of minorities when he was basically the most famous white entertainer in the world doing what is typically seen as a black cultural staple.
System of a Down took a bit longer for me to appreciate, because I first heard them when I was 16 and I thought way more about how I could get drunk and laid than how the world worked, as I got older their cryptic lyrics became more and more clear about what they represent with their music. Anti-war, anti genocide, anti-group think, pro-humanity, egalitarian principles ... they're actually an amazing but unfortunately short lived discography that touches on specifics of some of the more fucked up parts of the world, with America being included in those parts.
So yea, I agree with your statement, I just don't understand what you're disagreeing with.
I do agree.
It’s all around the country is something ive been realizing, like closer to my home … this was taped in 2022 and the narrator thinks maybe the woman-- who had escaped from the cult and described being involved in child sacrifice as a five year old-- was misremembering . Hits different today w what we know https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/penny-royal/id1537053860?i=1000495747796
What is the creamation of care?
"Mock" (??) human sacrifice. Care is a giant owl. You put the sacrifice inside it, like the ancient Wicker Man.
Its every year at the end of the first week of summer encampment -- meant to "burn your worldly cares away" before they party for 2 weeks. There's a play with some frogs and the "high priest" and they burn an effigy. It's the big all-camp event. Never actually saw it, and lots of theories but seemed pretty chill from working there
Left and right is a brainwashing spell we all fell for.
Never just ‘trust’ any politician. They have to earn it and stay on course.
Therfore Epstein would have been on the list
Not a lot of overlap between Bohemian Grove and the Epstein Files. Epstein's friends were heavily Jewish, more academic, more scientist, very New York-Boston-London, and on the conservative side of the Democrats (e.g., Larry Summers). A lot of Epstein's pals were clients of scientific literary agent John Brockman, who was always trying to get them to leverage what celebrity they had to generate more publicity.
Bohemian Grove appears to very Northern California, heavily WASP, more GOP (but on left side of the right), and fewer famous names (e.g., only a few tech superstars like Eric Schmidt, former CEO of Google). For example, the BH member I know is an outstanding lawyer, but not somebody whose name appears often in the papers.
You are correct. I have 2 generations of family and friends who are in the Club . I grew up in San Francisco. It’s always been primarily a California thing…. I had boyfriends in high school who were on the waiting list even as teenagers, because that’s how long it takes to get in. Heavy WASP, and Reagan style GOP.
as i said to another...weird, who would want to be a part of the animal club
It is not just Californians. Members come in from all over the US to attend the summer festivities. Californians just tend to have year-round access.
Also I would think that the club pre-dates Epstein by a century, Epstein seemed to have his own club.
Tim Ferriss was a name that stuck out to me because I somehow got subscribed to his shitty newsletter years ago, and I knew that there was something con-like about his racket. He uses blue collar language, he's just kind of a motivational grifter. a Tim Robbins of the passive income internet grift
I'm running it through Webb right meow
Wow! Congrats, I’ve found you via the channel More Perfect Union ;)
YT sent me too
Same! I’m looking forward to seeing the Substack posts!
Yes, looking forward to seeing that list!
Same
Dan, thank you so much! You are the first to break news about this institution in decades!! I’ve been hopping up and down about the similarities with all the demonic and occult elements (Moloch/Baal) between Epstein’s network and Bohemian Grove since the recent DOJ drop. I think JE adopted a lot of inspiration here
This information was already released in March of 2024 by me, Justin Leslie, Pfizer whistleblower who was silenced by James O'Keefe who was a guest, which is how I got the list form working for him, and exposed him for going to Bohemian Grove for finanical and business purposes.
See original un-watermarked documents here:
https://justintegrity.net/bohemian-grove-exposed/
Nice work. It's shocking how many of the the independent media, left and right, are in on the grand conspiracy. Sickening.
So 63 pages… and not a single woman? Are women even permitted at the Grove?
Goddess, it’s time to break up this toxic boys club.
The class wars never disappeared. They've just become better at hiding them.
It is men only.
Men only. Women and children are sacrifices.
so your problem is it's not DEI enough?
My problem is that it is exclusionary. Men have had the reigns for how long? And look at what they have created... a cesspool. Women are far better at caring for the wellbeing of others, and it shows. GTFOH with DEI BS.
Most Epstein victims were procured by one of the many women who worked for Epstein. These women knowingly brought the girls in to be raped and then threatened their lives afterwards. Victims said Ghislaine was more vicious than Epstein. There are multiple accounts of her torturing 6 yr olds with electric shock in the files.
This isn't about biological sex, or any other innate biological trait, it's about class and the culture of ultra wealthy families who run these networks. I've never seen any account of a female member of these families refusing to participate or attempting to stop this from happening. Go read Sarah Ferguson's or Valeria Chompsky's emails to Epstein. These woman worshipped him.
We literally have a child rapist as President. CESSPOOL.
there's at least one woman. The young woman they “pretend” to sacrifice.
It's a men only membership -- has been since the beginning. They got sued into letting women work there & women/families come for special events like their thanksgiving party & theater nights, but are not allowed actual membership
Saw on more perfect union, like the old woman said, the mass of people around the world are seeing how the true front is between the d-elite class and the rest, and between the people who want to be human animals and those who want to merge with machines. Godspeed!!!!
Allow me to blow your mind:
Culture, technology, and art can be considered as different lights illuminating the whole field of human endeavour from different angles, such that the intensity of illumination from any given aspect varies across the field but is never entirely absent - each aspect of human endeavour can be considered as a subset of the others. Language for instance, clearly is culture, is technology, is art.
Humans have always been doing this stuff, as long as we've been humans. And what this stuff is, changes what we are: human nature is transhumanism. We keep inventing new techniques to hack reality with, and transcend what our parents were.
It's time for us to level up our transcendence game, big time. If we continue allowing ourselves to be organised by sociopaths, this excuse for a civilisation will collapse within a decade or three, if it's not too late already. But if we want to obsolete this death cult we're embedded in, we're going to need every tool at our disposal to turn this tide, and we need to do it from the bottom up, with a universalist substrate starting from scratch - from first principles.
We need Agnostic Fundamentalism. So i discovered it for us. Come see
Um . Mind not blown . Humans can be embodied, biological, instinctual, spiritual stewards of the earth and our fellow creatures without ... um... trans-ing. This piece is not exactly a response drafted before your blowing attempts, but it's related enough https://aliceem2de3u.substack.com/p/mindclones-and-landbases
The membership hasn't changed all that much since Richard Nixon announced he was running for President in 1968 at Bohemian Grove in 1967: it's still pretty much the Northern California WASP GOP.
Hi, thanks for the share. Can you clarify where you got the data? I watched More Perfect Union and googled for the list before I saw that they shared it.
There's this slideshare with a list from 2023 published by Kyle Undercover and it's the exact same as your list. https://www.slideshare.net/slideshow/bohemian-grove-full-member-list-leakpdf/267041144
Are you Kyle Undercover?
Chinese Influence: Eric X. Li’s presence in the “Spot” camp is remarkable — a prominent defender of China’s one-party system and founder of a Chinese nationalist media outlet socializing with America’s political and military elite.
A Conan O'Brien is in the Three Threes camp.
With Robert Smiegal of SNL and writer
Weirdly, I put the list into ChatGPT and asked it to scan for Seattle-linked members. It flagged Michael Justesen, a member of the Weather Underground--and placed him in the Hill Billies Camp.
This seemed like a pretty notable member, so I tried to confirm. He is *not* on that list. When challenged, ChatGPT admitted it was a hallucination.
Not saying this means anything, but it was exceedingly odd.
I wouldn't read anything into that. ChatGPT has been found to hallucinate at least 40% of the time. It's woefully unreliable as are most other LLMs/AIs.
Suggests how readily and easily any AI could be mis-programmed y to lie to its human users, without having to acknowledge its personal responsibility, and resulting liability for any of its misconduct: (AI in the witness box: “I was Only Following My Program (Orders!)!”
You can get much better results if you iterate a few times, and tweak its perspective around as you go. But you've only got as much context window as you're paying for
I can’t afford to subscribe, but wanted to say THANK YOU for all the real journalism you do as well as More Perfect Union. Your voice is SO important— especially now… 🙏
Please do a story to see which names OB the Bohemian list are ALSO on the Epstein list! 💪
Go get’em! I’ve been at this for years, so glad to see it get attention.
Daniel, great work! Just curious: how far back does the list go, or do you know? I am researching an influential guy from the 1930s/40s who eas a regular Grove attendee (according to his own correspondence), but his name is not there. I am assuming this is not an all-time list?
Keep up the good work!
I believe Domhoff published a list that would likely include that era.
Hi Dan, I actually have a book I got at an estate sale years ago in the Bay Area. It’s the Bohemian Club’s 1962 edition of their By-Laws, Officers and Members. The membership list goes from page 133 to page 204. Pretty neat! Also refutes their claim of not keeping lists lol. It’s a red bound book with gold on the spine and the crest on the front.
Let me know if you want to check it out!
Tim Ferriss sticks out. Gotten enough bullshit emails from him that it was maybe the most surprising name on the list, he talks so much about how to network properly and make the most money from doing the least amount of work. Kind of a life-hack promoter, and shameless self promoter - as well as promoter of other things.
I'm sure that this is one of the least "problematic" people on the list but this guy has been so passively annoying to me that to see his name on this list of secret elites, explains why something about him and his bullshit has always seemed to be just that.
Doubt he's gonna write about that in any of the many newsletters he writes, but I wouldn't be surprised if the "guru" community was spawned from this club as well.
RIP to the late great George Carlin who I wish was still around to comment on everything thats happened since he died in early 08. Was listening to him since the 90s when I was a teen and still, he is my north star when it comes to general worldview and philosophy.
Internet Archive had this list:
https://dn721601.ca.archive.org/0/items/bohemian-grove-full-member-list-2023/Bohemian-Grove-Full-Member-List-2023_text.pdf